Comments - Interview with Larry Korn - Transition Whatcom2024-03-29T13:18:52Zhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=2723460%3ABlogPost%3A18982&xn_auth=noMay we live aware & withi…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-18:2723460:Comment:221152010-05-18T22:13:00.212ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
May we live aware & within the power & diversity & beauty of nature that our bodies birthed from ….<br />
may our life & death allow for more beauty than what we destroy.....<br />
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Great to read your dialogues!<br />
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“ …..May we remember that humans are within the cycle of nature. We have the choose to destroy or change what has been created (the power of the blade), or the choice to co-create & nourish life (the power of the chalice).<br />
I embrace the Beloved Mystery - of Spirit - of Life -…
May we live aware & within the power & diversity & beauty of nature that our bodies birthed from ….<br />
may our life & death allow for more beauty than what we destroy.....<br />
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Great to read your dialogues!<br />
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“ …..May we remember that humans are within the cycle of nature. We have the choose to destroy or change what has been created (the power of the blade), or the choice to co-create & nourish life (the power of the chalice).<br />
I embrace the Beloved Mystery - of Spirit - of Life - of Creation...<br />
We may have been created from stardust and to stardust the body may return.”<br />
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above quote from- “Garden-Servant Update: fertility, nourishment, & water in temperate climate mid-spring”<br />
<i><a href="http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gardenservant-update-fertility" target="_blank">http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gardenservant-update-fertility</a></i><br />
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I'm starting to read “ <u>The Lost Language of Plants</u>” by Stephen Buhner.<br />
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I can recommend these books too:<br />
Kinship With All Life – J. Allen Boone<br />
The Tracker – and other books by Tom Brown Jr.<br />
Behaving As If The God In All Life Mattered – Machaelle Small Wright<br />
The Findhorn Garden- by the Findhorn commmunity<br />
Song of Songs I agree too. It seems as tech…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-18:2723460:Comment:221122010-05-18T21:47:36.782ZChristie Casselhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/ChristieCassel
I agree too. It seems as technology advances, spirituality degresses (as connection to nature is cut off). To be even more dichotmous, science and technology improves quanity of human life while diminishing quality of life. The problem is that technology doesn't stop; it advanaces at an escalating rate. It makes me want to drop out of society and live off the land, but I feel socially responsible to participate in movements that intend to bring us back to balance.
I agree too. It seems as technology advances, spirituality degresses (as connection to nature is cut off). To be even more dichotmous, science and technology improves quanity of human life while diminishing quality of life. The problem is that technology doesn't stop; it advanaces at an escalating rate. It makes me want to drop out of society and live off the land, but I feel socially responsible to participate in movements that intend to bring us back to balance. Fukuoka tended to slam the ne…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-18:2723460:Comment:220832010-05-18T21:17:54.513ZDavid Pikehttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/DavidPike
Fukuoka tended to slam the negative impacts of technology and science...and I tend to agree with him. Somewhere along the way, science and technology stopped improving our lives and started destroying them. Cultures which are aware of this - and opt not to use destructive technologies - are more advanced than mainstream culture.
Fukuoka tended to slam the negative impacts of technology and science...and I tend to agree with him. Somewhere along the way, science and technology stopped improving our lives and started destroying them. Cultures which are aware of this - and opt not to use destructive technologies - are more advanced than mainstream culture. So, permaculture is modeling…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-18:2723460:Comment:220762010-05-18T19:46:49.016ZChristie Casselhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/ChristieCassel
So, permaculture is modeling indigenous cultures while taking into account explosions in the population?<br />
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Were all humans living in harmony with the environment prior to The Industrial Revolution? Maybe the Amish, Mennonites, and Hutterites were onto something! ; )
So, permaculture is modeling indigenous cultures while taking into account explosions in the population?<br />
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Were all humans living in harmony with the environment prior to The Industrial Revolution? Maybe the Amish, Mennonites, and Hutterites were onto something! ; ) Just to continue with a contr…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-18:2723460:Comment:220332010-05-18T01:43:30.255ZDavid Pikehttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/DavidPike
Just to continue with a contrasting opinion...Who is to say that humans are not nature or natural? We are as much a part of this planet and universe as anything else. For many thousands of years humans lived in complete harmony with nature, it is only within the last few hundred that we have strayed...I would share my opinion and say that we are animals - the same as all other animals, we have just made different choices in our use (and over-use) of the earth.
Just to continue with a contrasting opinion...Who is to say that humans are not nature or natural? We are as much a part of this planet and universe as anything else. For many thousands of years humans lived in complete harmony with nature, it is only within the last few hundred that we have strayed...I would share my opinion and say that we are animals - the same as all other animals, we have just made different choices in our use (and over-use) of the earth. On blog formatting, I empathi…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-05-17:2723460:Comment:220252010-05-17T22:11:39.657ZChristie Casselhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/ChristieCassel
On blog formatting, I empathize with the frustration of formatting lost. Sometimes using a simple text program like Word Pad has better results than copy and paste from Word. It may be worth a try for future blogs.<br />
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On this permaculture debate, I think permaculture can get misunderstood because it is essentially an impossible ideology. We are humans, imperfect destructive beings by default. We are not nature or even natural, but working toward that ideal with nature as our teacher is at least…
On blog formatting, I empathize with the frustration of formatting lost. Sometimes using a simple text program like Word Pad has better results than copy and paste from Word. It may be worth a try for future blogs.<br />
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On this permaculture debate, I think permaculture can get misunderstood because it is essentially an impossible ideology. We are humans, imperfect destructive beings by default. We are not nature or even natural, but working toward that ideal with nature as our teacher is at least beneficial, if not the entire goal of our existence. Just as religions cannot prescribe a perfect spiritual path for everyone, permaculture cannot design perfect agriculture and means of living in harmony with the environment, but the goals are spot on. We'll get there... maybe in the next dimension! Great interview David! And th…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-04-17:2723460:Comment:192672010-04-17T06:01:29.194ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
<b>Great interview David! And thank you Larry for your time in responding to the questions!</b><br />
I especially enjoyed reading the thoughts in regards to the different approaches between permaculture designing and natural farming.<br />
As I am a wild human being who's mind enjoys the global principles of permaculture - my body & soul resonate more strongly with the intuitive actions of my hands & heart listening & touching & walking on the earth. I have long referred to my 'style' of…
<b>Great interview David! And thank you Larry for your time in responding to the questions!</b><br />
I especially enjoyed reading the thoughts in regards to the different approaches between permaculture designing and natural farming.<br />
As I am a wild human being who's mind enjoys the global principles of permaculture - my body & soul resonate more strongly with the intuitive actions of my hands & heart listening & touching & walking on the earth. I have long referred to my 'style' of co-creating in the earth-garden as <b>“Ecological Chaos”...reflecting both natures order & creative-chaos</b>.<br />
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I'd like to carry our conversations back over to our natural farming discussion in the Garden/Group.<br />
I plan to forward on both of these blogs out to many on the TW list, to inspire folks to attend one or all of the 3 afternoon/evening days with Larry Korn in May 2010, currently posted as an event.<br />
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<b>All</b> – Be sure to follow more of our pondering on natural farming on our Organic Gardeners/Growers group discussion at: <i><a href="http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/group/organic/forum/topics/natural-farming-in-the-pacific" target="_blank">http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/group/organic/forum/topics/natural-farming-in-the-pacific</a></i> under title of '<b>Natural Farming in the Pacific Northwest-Technique & Philosophy'</b>. I would also disagree with th…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-04-17:2723460:Comment:192362010-04-17T00:44:42.171ZDavid Pikehttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/DavidPike
I would also disagree with the concept that we cannot pick and choose what we want to utilize from permaculture. Even small pieces of the permaculture puzzle can be beneficial to both land and people, we don't have to take the whole design concept. Permaculture is essentially a whole lot of good ideas stacked together to form a cohesive and symbiotic design - but we don't yet know exactly what that ideal design is - so what's the harm in using a few good ideas here and there?
I would also disagree with the concept that we cannot pick and choose what we want to utilize from permaculture. Even small pieces of the permaculture puzzle can be beneficial to both land and people, we don't have to take the whole design concept. Permaculture is essentially a whole lot of good ideas stacked together to form a cohesive and symbiotic design - but we don't yet know exactly what that ideal design is - so what's the harm in using a few good ideas here and there?