Economic Evolution

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Comment by Merry Teesdale on May 15, 2010 at 12:38pm

Can't make it either. I have a class on Monday.

Comment by Rev. Meredith Ann Murray on May 15, 2010 at 10:28am

Darn - I had already planned on going to this movie at ReSources, so won't be coming to Monday's meeting. This seems like it might be a valuable movie for all in this group to see?? Perhaps we can reschedule the meeting? Details:

What's the Economy for, Anyway? with filmmaker John de Graaf
Monday, May 17th
RE Sources' Sustainable Living Center
7:00 p.m.
Free

RE Sources hosts John de Graaf, filmmaker and National Coordinator of TAKE BACK YOUR TIME, an organization challenging time poverty and overwork in the U.S. and Canada. Mr. de Graaf will show his latest film, “What’s the Economy for, Anyway?” and be available for Q & A after the film.
You could call it Al Gore meets Stephen Colbert. Ecological economist Dave Batker presents a humorous, edgy, factual, timely and highly-visual monologue about the American economy today, challenging the ways we measure economic success—especially the Gross Domestic Product—and offering an answer to the question: What’s the Economy For, Anyway? Using Gifford Pinchot’s idea that the economy’s purpose is “the greatest good for the greatest number over the longest run,” Batker compares the performance of the U.S. economy with that of other industrial countries in terms of providing a high quality of life, fairness and ecological sustainability, concluding that when you do the numbers, we come out near the bottom in nearly every category. Batker shines a humorous light on such economic buzzwords as “productivity,” and “consumer sovereignty,” while offering ideas for “capitalism with a human face,” a new economic paradigm that meets the real needs of people and the planet.

“It’s completely great!” --writer and environmentalist, Bill McKibben

Comment by james bauckman on May 11, 2010 at 2:40pm

I am so really excited about what 4th corner will allow us all to do. We can get great value for our life dollars if we can get tons and tons of people to sign up for this. It will add value because we will have a greater diversity of skills and items available for trade and sale. I keep telling everyone about this and am making signing up for 4th corner a prerequisite to doing business with my film/television production company so that i can pay my crew in life dollars. Get people to sign up for it and watch your personal net worth grow with REAL value. Peace

Comment by Francis Ayley on May 11, 2010 at 1:59pm

Keith, I unreservedly accept your apology.

Now I invite everyone on this list to work cooperatively and with goodwill to create the kind of economy we want. I strongly recommend everyone watch the movie 'Money As Debt' (free on Google), if you have not already done so, as a preliminary introduction to what is wrong with the mainstream money system, and 'The Grip of Death' for a far deeper analysis. Both are referenced on our website www.lifedollars.org. Then we can pick up the discussion from there. Fourth Corner Exchange has moved many people along this path of education, lets build on the momentum we have created.

The vast majority of citizens are completely unaware of the destructive nature of our present monetary system. We need to inform them and show them what a healthy monetary system looks like, and then invite them to join us.

Comment by Merry Teesdale on May 11, 2010 at 1:35pm

Over the past 5 years I have spent a total of 637 LDs. That's $6370 worth of goods and services I received -it's additional prosperity that I did not spend a penny for. Membership in 4CX costs $45 a year. So for $270 US Dollars, I gained the use of $6100. The more one trades with 4CX, the better the bargain it is. If one buys anything and doesn't use it, then it's not such a good deal.

Comment by Rev. Meredith Ann Murray on May 11, 2010 at 10:02am

Yes, thanks for this discussion. I think NVC is the best way to approach things here, too. We all have the opportunity to learn from one another and together we can find additional ways to support economic evolution! I hope some of you might come to the "Economic Collapse" forum at the Congregational Chruch on Cornwall today from 4 - 6:30 that I mentioned in an earlier post. Stop by the Village Books table to say hi to me! That's where I am volunteering. Smiles, Meredith

Comment by Jamie Jedinak on May 11, 2010 at 9:20am

They are putting forth a very dynamic and challenging paradigm of change for Bellingham.
More Hands Make Less Work for ALL!! Cheers Keith!!

Thank you Francis and Lia for your hours and your days and your years of supportive public engagement.

Comment by Keith Foecke on May 11, 2010 at 7:12am

Can I get a "do over"? Sometimes I open my mouth before my brain engages. So, I'd like to be able to extract my foot from my mouth at least long enough to be able to eat some humble pie. Most of what I know of Fourth Corner Exchange I learned from other people (stepping back, I cannot attest to the accuracy of the information), so I apologize for my first post.

Anyway, I didn't mean to start any confrontation, but it did get me to do a bit of research, and I am very impressed with what I read by Francis and Lia Ayley in Whatcom Watch newspaper.

Comment by Merry Teesdale on May 10, 2010 at 11:55am

There are certain costs of doing business for any business. Do you have a checking account at a bank? How much do your checks cost? Is there a monthly fee? Do you ever buy money orders? Certified checks? How about Wiring fees?
For discussions, there is a place for that right above this comment wall. + Start a discussion

Hope this helps.

Comment by Keith Foecke on May 10, 2010 at 11:34am

First of all, I want to state that I applaud what fourth corner exchange is doing. I did not mean to step on anybody's toes. And I'll continue by adding that all currency systems have it's flaws (especially the federal one we have now which is based upon debt. The two complaints that I get when mentioning fourth corner exchange is the dues, and that it is not widely accepted in businesses. Having said that, I will admit to a certain amount of ignorance as well. I do not have all the answers, (heck, I might not have any), But I would like more information and discussion about what we have, don't have, want and how generally we can make things better for this community.

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