Healing Toxic Soils & Waters - Mycoremediation, Compost Teas, Cover Crops, Fungal Bioremediation) - Transition Whatcom2024-03-29T08:34:06Zhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/forum/topics/healing-toxic-soils-waters?groupUrl=organic&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_url&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBio Char & Terra Preta! -…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2011-02-16:2723460:Comment:438272011-02-16T19:50:03.676ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
<p><font size="2">Bio Char & Terra Preta! -</font><font size="2"><strong>Terra Preta- Secrets Of El Dorado</strong> - YouTube Video Serie<i>s (<strong>especially see #VI</strong> ) </i></font> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsQYjeqBOkk&feature=related" rel="nofollow"><font size="2">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsQYjeqBOkk&feature=related</font></a></p>
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<p><font size="2"> Lets build back up our lost biochar info & share resources. We lost much of our posted…</font></p>
<p><font size="2">Bio Char & Terra Preta! -</font><font size="2"><strong>Terra Preta- Secrets Of El Dorado</strong> - YouTube Video Serie<i>s (<strong>especially see #VI</strong> ) </i></font> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsQYjeqBOkk&feature=related"><font size="2">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsQYjeqBOkk&feature=related</font></a></p>
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<p><font size="2"> Lets build back up our lost biochar info & share resources. We lost much of our posted info on TW when one of our favorite wise neighbors left the site a year ago ;-) and everything he posted left too...glad he's back!! Links below, including a video series posted above.</font></p>
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<p><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: normal;">Herbicide Inactivation with BioChar – Compared to Activated Carbon (AC)”- Richard Haard <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rchaard/5366487002/sizes/l/in/photostream/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/rchaard/5366487002/sizes/l/in/photostr...</a></span></font></p>
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<h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">Biochar and sequestration of toxins - Richard Haard- <a href="http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profiles/blogs/biochar-and-sequestration-of?xg_source=activity">http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profiles/blogs/biochar-and-seques...</a></font></h1>
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<h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">Gardening with Bio-Char - <a rel="nofollow" href="http://biochar.pbworks.com/w/page/9748043/FrontPage">http://biochar.pbworks.com/w/page/9748043/FrontPage</a></font></h1>
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<h2 class="western" style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">Locals I'm aware of working with incorporating biochar into their soils are Brian K, Alison, Larry W, Richard H, & myself!</font></h2> Hi Heather
Surprised grosafe…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2011-02-16:2723460:Comment:438212011-02-16T03:07:40.352ZRichard Haardhttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/RichardHaard
<p>Hi Heather</p>
<p>Surprised grosafe option was left out. Is standard for pesticide spill cleanup for many years. Substituting your own biochar may not work. Depends on chemistry of formation. Check references on my poster.</p>
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<p>Before moving ahead a simple screening test is good idea to determine if you indeed have a problem after overwintering. suggest modeling after my soil screening test using radish or mustard seed.…</p>
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<p>Hi Heather</p>
<p>Surprised grosafe option was left out. Is standard for pesticide spill cleanup for many years. Substituting your own biochar may not work. Depends on chemistry of formation. Check references on my poster.</p>
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<p>Before moving ahead a simple screening test is good idea to determine if you indeed have a problem after overwintering. suggest modeling after my soil screening test using radish or mustard seed.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/forum/topics/healing-toxic-soils-waters?groupUrl=organic&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_url#2723460Comment43817"></blockquote> Walter & Richard, I'll be…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2011-02-16:2723460:Comment:438172011-02-16T02:09:10.061ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
<p>Walter & Richard, I'll be adding in your blog links to this Solution oriented discusion that was started last year.</p>
<p>Would you be willing to look over these solution options and see if I've missed anything? If you send me an email, I'll edit after I get your feedback. Thanks!</p>
<p>Walter & Richard, I'll be adding in your blog links to this Solution oriented discusion that was started last year.</p>
<p>Would you be willing to look over these solution options and see if I've missed anything? If you send me an email, I'll edit after I get your feedback. Thanks!</p> “Herbicides in Compost” - WSD…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-10-08:2723460:Comment:329392010-10-08T20:59:37.771ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
<b>“Herbicides in Compost” - WSDA fact sheet regarding issue of commercial & dairy compost containing damaging effects from herbicide residues as recently been released</b>:<br />
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<a href="http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf" target="_blank">http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf</a><br />
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some quotes from the fact sheet:<br />
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“....However, <b>EPA has not tested or established tolerances for the…</b>
<b>“Herbicides in Compost” - WSDA fact sheet regarding issue of commercial & dairy compost containing damaging effects from herbicide residues as recently been released</b>:<br />
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<a href="http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf" target="_blank">http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf</a><br />
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some quotes from the fact sheet:<br />
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“....However, <b>EPA has not tested or established tolerances for the use of these herbicides on most vegetable crops. The U.S. Food & Drug Administration prohibits the sale of any produce containing herbicide residues without an established tolerance.</b><br />
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“Herbicides containing aminopyralid and clopyralid can be used on certain grains, grass and other feed crops. Once harvested, these commodities, and subsequent food products such as milk and meats, may legally contain residues of the herbicides.<br />
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“How do I clean up my garden if damaged by herbicides?......<br />
"If.......you determine that your soil has been impacted by the herbicide residues, there are several ways to mitigate the problem. If it is a very small area, remove the soil and spread it on grass or pasture areas that will not be harvested as feed. For larger areas or large quantities of soil, add more soil to reduce the ratio of compost/manure to soil, reducing the exposure and concentration in the area. The soil you add will contain <b>microorganisms which are the best avenue to break down these herbicides. The longer they have to work and the greater the number of microorganisms that are present (healthy soil)</b> compared to the compost ratio, the faster the herbicide will break down. …..<br />
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“How do I avoid this happening to my garden in the future?<br />
<b>If you use manure or manure-derived compost products in your garden, be diligent in asking your supplier what kinds of herbicides were used to produce feed for their animals. If they use products that contain aminopyralid or clopyralid in the production of their crops, do not buy or use their manure.</b> Composters should consider performing bioassays as recommended by WSU Extension to assure consumers that their compost does not contain damaging levels of herbicides.<br />
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<b>“Because of the spotlight on this problem this year, <u>many</u> Whatcom County dairy farmers have said they will no longer use these long-lasting residual herbicides if they distribute manure off site.</b> This should reduce potential compost problems in the future. Also, some growers are using self-contained operations, relying on compost produced from their own farm’s crop wastes, rather than bringing in manure that may have suspect ingredients. …..<br />
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“<b>WSDA is discussing solutions to the problem with feed and hay growers, dairy farmers, composters and other regulators. Investigations are still ongoing to determine the extent of this issue.....</b> "<br />
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For full fact sheet & list of Washington state regulatory contacts go to the website.</b><br />
<a href="http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf" target="_blank">http://agr.wa.gov/pestfert/pesticides/docs/317-WhatcomCountyHerbicideCompostConcerns2010.pdf</a> "If people let the government…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-09-01:2723460:Comment:303072010-09-01T22:52:09.426ZHeather Khttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/HeatherK
<b>"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."</b><br />
~Thomas Jefferson<br />
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Prevention Addition #3 - Farmers educating farmers on how to get along without herbicides & costly manufactored ag chemicals & without dependence on GMO seeds;<br />
Citizens educating citizens on how to create a localized living democracy that can halt future corporate sales &…
<b>"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."</b><br />
~Thomas Jefferson<br />
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Prevention Addition #3 - Farmers educating farmers on how to get along without herbicides & costly manufactored ag chemicals & without dependence on GMO seeds;<br />
Citizens educating citizens on how to create a localized living democracy that can halt future corporate sales & useage of chemicals that are unsafe for the peoples soils, water, and children;<br />
Youth & elders learning together that personal integrity & love of earth & community is more important then earning a US dollar.<br />
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Thanks Walter & Merry for sharing your wisdom!<br />
I spoke with Alison from Sound Horticulture on the phone yesterday. Exciting to hear what she has brewing up in her magical aerobic & biologically active brain & compost tea visions!<br />
I'll look forward to her sharing another time, here on TW, or on CLSR website or Shannnon's Garden E-News.<br />
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<cite>Megan Westgate said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/forum/topics/healing-toxic-soils-waters?groupUrl=organic&#2723460Comment30199"><div>Thank you Heather!!! We need all this info, unfortunately.</div>
</blockquote> Dow Chemical Company has said…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-09-01:2723460:Comment:302352010-09-01T05:31:26.046ZMerry Teesdalehttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/MerryTeesdale
Dow Chemical Company has said in many places that soil microorganisms break down aminopyralid. And that residues in manure will break down faster if incorporated into soil by rototilling or frequent turning of the soil.<br />
2 to 9 years are the numbers I've seen.<br />
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The aminopyralid breaks down under aerobic conditions, not anerobic conditions. Also, the chemical is taken up by plants. When they die, the soil microorganisms, which live on organic matter in the soil, can then then break down the plant…
Dow Chemical Company has said in many places that soil microorganisms break down aminopyralid. And that residues in manure will break down faster if incorporated into soil by rototilling or frequent turning of the soil.<br />
2 to 9 years are the numbers I've seen.<br />
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The aminopyralid breaks down under aerobic conditions, not anerobic conditions. Also, the chemical is taken up by plants. When they die, the soil microorganisms, which live on organic matter in the soil, can then then break down the plant and the chemical. If you eat these plants, most of the aminopyralid will pass through you. If you poo into the sewer system, the chemical will end up in the anerobic Bellingham Bay where it is likely to remain viable for years without breaking down.<br />
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When aminopyralid breaks down, it divides into two compounds. One shows promise for its weight loss properties and has patents applied for. The EPA did not require Dow to test these compounds so it is not known if they break down farther or not nor what happens to them in the soil.<br />
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The question becomes, how does one build up mega amounts of soil bacteria? Probably leaf mulch would be a good source of food for the bacteria and fall is coming. One could test tilling in as much organic matter as possible this fall and leave it over the winter to feed bacteria.<br />
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Heather's cover crop idea is a good one too, planting a cover crop, then harvesting and destroying it somehow. It then would be off site or concentrated rather than broken down. Thank you Heather!!! We need…tag:transitionwhatcom.ning.com,2010-08-31:2723460:Comment:301992010-08-31T21:20:09.107ZMegan Westgatehttp://transitionwhatcom.ning.com/profile/MeganWestgate
Thank you Heather!!! We need all this info, unfortunately.
Thank you Heather!!! We need all this info, unfortunately.